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This interview was taken from british magazine
"Boyz".
Issue 702 (22nd January 2005). An edited version of this interview
was also published in russian magazine
"Kvir". Issue 20
(March 2005).




RANDY ANDY
Erasure are back – hooray! – with a new
album, a new tour, a solo album from Andy Bell and an acoustic
album on ice. But that’s not all that’s new with Andy Bell. He talks
to Boyz about HIV, hip replacement and hooker sex.
- So, new album! What
can we expect?
- It’s very fresh. Very
Erasure still, but quite clean. It almost sounds like a new band.
- How’s Vince?
- I haven’t seen him since
February. He’s got married so he’s very happy. He can’t leave
America, because he’s applying for his Green Card. We did the vocals
in February, and I was there for about six weeks. It’s taken a while
because I had my hips done. I had them both replaced. The tops of my
thigh bones crumbled and they can’t work out why. It was quite
painful. On the last tour I was going through that, but I don’t
think people noticed.
- Can you still hippy
hippy shake?
- Yeah. I’m fine now - I
just have to be careful not to overdo it, and I have some lovely
little J‘s on my little bum cheeks. I look like a violin.
- And there’s a tour…
- The tour starts in
March. Vince gets his Green Card by then. We did an acoustic album
as well, which is really beautiful, but we thought we can’t release
it or people will get fed up, but we might release it as a 25th
anniversary record. It’s 20 years next year. And I’ve done a solo
record. There’s one song with Jake Shears [from Scissor Sisters].
He’s great. He came to see me when he was 12.
- What’s the
difference between the Erasure stuff and the solo stuff?
- It’s more free and much
gayer. Much more about letting your hair down and having a good
time. Very clubby.
- Have you got a new look for this?
- I can’t do looks. I’m
hopeless.
- You get someone to
invent one for you. Don’t you know anything about being a pop star?
- No. It’s all very
homeboy this time.
- How’s Paul [his
long-term partner]?
- He’s fantastic as well.
He’s finishing his book. It’s called Happiness Is The Best Face
Lift, which is from a Joni Mitchell song, and it’s his story of
growing up in the 50s in California, being a beach bum, coming from
a poor family, losing their house in a game of poker, living in a
skip, drug culture, moving to the UK…
- Are you in it?
- Yeah.
- You’ve been in the
papers recently, haven’t you? Apparently, you’ve ’admitted‘ you’re
HIV positive!
- I admitted it, did I?
I’ve known since 1998, all my friends are HIV positive as well, and
for us it doesn’t seem like anything. I thought the more the merrier
really. And it’s like there’s a burden off you when you share it.
- Has everyone been
alright about it?
- They seem to have been.
I haven’t had the press camping out or anything like that, whereas
20 years ago they would have been.
- How were your family
about it?
- They all know privately.
I don’t know how they are now, but they should be alright. It’s all
so different from the witch hunt days of the past.
- What made you want
to get tested?
- I had my appendix out
quite a few years ago and they did a test then and it was fine, but
because I was having a few opportunistic infections, and then when I
had the pneumonia it was putting one and one together, really.
- Did you go to get
the test with Paul?
- Yeah, he was there. He
found out he was positive in 1990.
- Was it a trauma?
- It was when Paul found
out he was, but not for me. When he found out the doctor said, ’I’ve
got some really bad news: you’re going to die.‘ Some Harley Street
quack. Even one of my local doctors says things like, ’Have you had
AIDS?‘.
- So have you shed a
single tear over it?
- Not really. I was alright with it. I didn’t go out to get it, but
for me it was a bit like a gay tattoo. I know that sounds bad, but
it’s wanting to belong to groups of people: being gay, then taking
coke, then being HIV positive. I just feel like I want to be myself.
I’m no martyr or anything like that. Some people have a hard time of
it.
- So, what’s this we
hear about you getting noshed off by Jimmy Somerville on Hampstead
Heath back in the day?
- Yeah, but he wasn’t
sucking me off. I was wearing a dress shirt for some reason that
night, and he was pulling it out and it was really long and I think
he thought I’d stuffed my trousers ‘cause I didn’t have anything
down there. He got bored and left. I knew it was him, so I froze,
then ran after him and we laughed our heads off.
- Have you had anyone
else famous?
- No. I’ve never even met
George Michael, I’ve only seen Elton once. I think they like their
own.
- Are you still a
dirty little perv?
- I’m in training. I want
to do leather next. I want to be in a sling and all that stuff. I
love daddies. And bears. I feel like the chickens are too young, and
I get a bit scared because their skin’s too beautiful. And if I was
a slave I’d be too manipulative. Actually, I’m into anything. I’m
not choosy.
- Who was the last
person you did?
- A Hungarian rent boy in
Berlin. Last week. He was alright. He was a man until he took his
clothes off, and then he was a girl.
- So you don’t mind
doing rent boys?
- No. It’s only my second
one. My first was in New York. It’s not my usual thing, but I just
think when you’re bored and you can’t be bothered looking round for
it, well then I’ll just go and pay.
- Where do you usually
get your boys when it’s not rent?
- I go to bars. I’m not
looking out for it all the time, and I like it when it happens just
by chance.
- Is your libido
lessening as you get older?
- No, it isn’t. But I
wouldn’t go south of the river. And I haven’t got a Gaydar profile.
- Remember when you
were so horny you would have walked across town in flip-flops for
some?
- Yeah. That was the time
I used to go to the Heath or go cottaging. I did cottaging for ages,
for about three years.
- What do you think
about how it worked out for George and his cottaging scandal?
- I think it’s worked out
really well. I’d be really pleased. It must be a huge relief. And
you don’t get crucified for doing stuff like that anymore.
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